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Title: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 08, 2015, 11:58:14 am
 Ladislaus V crowned L-h mint mark. Huszar 643,Unger 494k.

 John Hunyadi n-* mint mark. Huszar 618,Unger 485i.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on July 08, 2015, 12:38:25 pm
Hi Edward D,
 You are right .. +++
Both of them scarce.. +++

 and the reference also are correct.. +++ ;)

 Congratulation

 Regards
 Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 17, 2015, 06:25:50 pm
 Thank you,Quadrans.  I have another interesting one coming. It is a 1541 with the incorrect date of 1451 on it.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on July 17, 2015, 11:50:39 pm
Thank you,Quadrans.  I have another interesting one coming. It is a 1541 with the incorrect date of 1451 on it.

 We are waiting :)

 Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on July 18, 2015, 03:54:18 pm
It is a 1541 with the incorrect date of 1451 on it. 

There is a famous error of a 1510 that reads 1501.

Stkp


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 27, 2015, 02:38:26 pm
 Here is the 1451 K-B Hungarian Denar that should be 1541 K-B,King Ferdinand I.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on July 27, 2015, 07:46:23 pm
A very nice find.  Stkp


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on July 27, 2015, 08:12:18 pm
Here is the 1451 K-B Hungarian Denar that should be 1541 K-B,King Ferdinand I.

 I agree, very interesting coin,

 Engraving error, in the legens..

 Congratulation..
 Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 20, 2015, 09:22:12 am
 Here are 2 more. A very worn 1524 L-3 Hungarian Denar,King Louis II,I have Huszar 853,Unger 677c,the 1 in date off the flan.

 Also,a 1529 B-H Hungarian Denar,King Ferdinand I,Huszar 937,Unger 744g.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 20, 2015, 09:25:14 am
 Another one is a 1358-71 Hungarian Denar,Lily-Saracen head mint mark,King Louis I,Huszar 542,Unger 429x. It looks like a Ladislaus V-style variant.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 31, 2015, 12:47:06 pm
 A worn 1525 C-S/L-R Hungarian Denar,King Louis II.  Huszar 846,Unger 675p.

 Probably not that scarce;a 1338 mace-mace Hungarian Denar,King Charles Robert. Huszar 495,Unger 393n.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on September 16, 2015, 10:40:19 am
 First one is a 1442 P-R Hungarian Denar,King Wladislaus I,Huszar 605,Unger 470l.

 Second one 1456/57 B-P Hungarian Denar,King Ladislaus V,Huszar 668,Unger 525b.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on September 16, 2015, 10:50:15 am
 These probably aren't that scarce,but they are my first bracteates. The first one is Unger 122 and the second is Unger 117 and both Huszar 191.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 21, 2015, 06:54:25 am
 Here are 2 more. Both are 1446 Hungarian Denars,John Hunyadi. The first is an h-P mint mark Huszar 618,Unger 485d. The second an n-C mint mark Huszar 618,Unger 485g.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on October 21, 2015, 07:32:25 am
Nice specimens.. +++ :) ;)

 Regards
 Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 04, 2015, 09:32:46 am
 1602 K-B (should be 1620) Hungarian Denar,King Matthias II.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on November 04, 2015, 09:59:24 am
Hi,

 It is interesting legends error :)

 insted of 1620 your coin "1602"  of course this time not the Mathias II. time 

 nice pick up

 Congratulation..

 Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 04, 2015, 11:43:25 am
 Thank you.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on March 02, 2016, 08:05:54 am
Here are 2 more. The first is a 1527 C-Lily Hungarian Denar,King Ferdinand I,Huszar 942,Unger 743i.

The second is 1447-50 n-* Hungarian Denar,Gov. John Hunyadi,Huszar 620,Unger 486i,Rethy II157A,Pohl 177-10.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on March 02, 2016, 12:02:07 pm
Nice set of coins .. :) +++

 Regards
 Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on March 16, 2016, 05:43:46 pm
The first one is a 1441 L-P. Hungarian Denar,Ladislaus V,Huszar 643,Unger 494l variant,Rethy 201A,Pohl 150-10(I believe).

The second a 1463 n-E Hungarian Denar,Matthias Corvinus,Huszar 706,Unger 556h,Rethy II228,Pohl 206-8.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on March 30, 2016, 07:35:49 am
Here are 2 more;the first is a 1531 K-B Hungarian Denar variant under King Ferdinand I. It has a straight sided shield with a rosette above and on each side of the shield. I haven't been able to find this one in any of my references.  The other is a very worn (almost slick) 1469 B-cross/horseshoe Hungarian Denar under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 717,Unger 562e,Rethy II235A,Pohl 216-5. It has an error in the legend PAGRON instead of PATRON.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 20, 2016, 12:37:40 pm
The first one is a 1438(per Pohl) with a K-cross/R mint mark under King Albert;Huszar 591,Unger 459c,Pohl 126-4,Rethy 134.

The second is a 1468 h-T under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 704,Unger 555a,Pohl 204-1,Rethy 222. It is rather worn.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 21, 2016, 05:53:59 am
Here are 2 more,probably not that scarce but to show the difference between silver and copper. The first is a 1524 and the second a 1525,both with L-B mint marks under King Louis II. I believe both of these are Huszar 846,Rethy 308A,Pohl 258-1.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on April 29, 2016, 02:17:32 am
Interesting comparison.. +++ :)

 Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: BIRDSOFPREY on May 07, 2016, 07:08:49 pm
Does anyone have a good reference for the paired letters that appear on either side of the patriarchal cross or shield on these Hungarian denars?  I have quite a few and would like to know their significance.  Thanks in advance.

Regards,

David


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 19, 2016, 05:45:58 am
Here is a worn 1442 n-star Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus I. Huszar 605,Unger 470k,Pohl 141-10.

Also,a 1438 C-K under King Albert. Huszar 592,Unger 461c,Pohl 126-1.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 19, 2016, 05:53:11 am
Here are 2 of the scarcer mint marks of Queen Maria. Both are 1386-95 with h and lily mint marks,respectively.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on May 21, 2016, 10:06:56 pm
Nice  addition...

 Regards
 Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on June 16, 2016, 09:41:46 am
Here is one I couldn't resist;a 1063-74 Hungarian Denar under King Salomon,Huszar 14,Unger 8,Rethy I19.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on June 16, 2016, 08:37:46 pm
Great coin Edward..
 Congratulation. +++

 Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on June 23, 2016, 08:30:21 am
Here are 2 varieties of 1526 L-V Hungarian Denar under King Louis II. The second one has more folds in Madonna's robe under the knee and there is a slight difference in the eagle in the crest. Huszar 841,Unger 673( ).


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on June 23, 2016, 08:36:37 am
The first one is a 1524 L-S Hungarian Denar under King Louis II;Huszar 846,Unger645t.

The second is the billon version of a 1444-46 A-crescent/n Hungarian Denar during the Interregnum;Huszar 613,Unger 480 type.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on June 23, 2016, 11:45:58 am
Nice examples congratulation.. +++

 Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 11, 2016, 06:34:26 am
Here are 2 1528 C-Lily Hungarian denars under King Ferdinand I. The first one is billon with a curved shield;I believe it is Huszar 943 and Unger 744d var. The second is silver with 3 pellets around the shield and is another variant of Unger 744d. I tried with less light on the billon.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 11, 2016, 06:41:53 am
Both of these are Hungarian Denars under King Matthias Corvinus;the first a 1482-90 n-crossed hammers Huszar 720,Unger 566i.. The second a 1468 B-S Huszar 717,Unger 562d. On the n-hammers,I tried with less light. I was called in to work before I posted the new pictures. The cross in the shield looks like it was double struck. I will try to take a better picture.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on July 11, 2016, 09:18:35 am
Here are 2 1528 C-Lily Hungarian denars under King Ferdinand I. The first one is billon with a curved shield;I believe it is Huszar 943 and Unger 744d var. The second is silver with 3 pellets around the shield and is another variant of Unger 744d.

Hi Edward,

 The first look like an imitation but the picture are not enough sharp,

 the second are  very nice..

 Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on July 11, 2016, 09:25:36 am
Both of these are Hungarian Denars under King Matthias Corvinus;the first a 1482-90 n-crossed hammers Huszar 720,Unger 566i.. The second a 1468 B-S Huszar 717,Unger 562d.

Hi both are Mathias Corvinus

nice examples ...

but we need a better picture :)

 Regards
 Q.

p.s.
your first coin to compare mine examples :

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-126406
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=5329&pos=67

 Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 12, 2016, 08:59:23 am
I thought I would post a little better pictures of the 1482-90 n-Crossed hammers since I had so many pictures. The shield side seems to be struck much weaker than the other side and double struck. From one side to the other is as different as night and day.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on July 13, 2016, 06:06:46 am
HI Edward,

 Yes the revers side looking like a double struck ...

Which kind of equipment you use to make a photo mobile phone ? or ?.

 Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 13, 2016, 07:37:19 am
I use a mobile phone;a Sprint Evo 4G.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on July 13, 2016, 08:32:04 am
This one have an 8 MP camera ,

 it is enough to do better picture, but you must made stable of your mobile and use more light little bit side way..

 Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 09, 2016, 12:43:21 pm
Here are 2 Hungarian Denars under King Ladislaus V. The first is 1447-50 K-cross/P (billon) Huszar 654,Unger 505b,Pohl 160-1,Rethy II183 and the other a 1440 C-G Huszar 643,Unger 494a,Pohl 150-1,Rethy II201A.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 09, 2016, 12:48:44 pm
The first is a 1330-32 Hungarian Denar under King Charles Robert Huszar 474,Unger 375,Pohl 29,Rethy 11. The other a 1525 L-K under King Louis II,Huszar 846,Unger 675e,Pohl 258-2,Rethy II308A.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 09, 2016, 12:54:53 pm
Here are 2 types of Hungarian Denars under King Matthias Corvinus with a K-P/radial rosette mint mark. The first 1482-86,Huszar
719,Unger 565c,Pohl 221-2,Rethy II239A. the other 1489,Huszar 722,Unger 567c,Pohl 223-2,Rethy II232.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on August 09, 2016, 03:00:44 pm
Nice grup of coins Edward... +++

 My favourit are the King Charles Robert and King Mathias Corvinus coins.... ;) :) +++

 This is Mine Charles Robert but the smaller obolos:

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-107127


Best regards
 Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 09, 2016, 04:43:11 pm
Yours looks nicer. I think mine is more of an uneven strike than wear.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 24, 2016, 04:37:13 am
The first is a 1530 A-B Hungarian Denar under John Zapolya. The N's are reversed in the legend and the H is missing from IOHANNES. Huszar 881,Unger 699z,Pohl 265-2,Rethy 331A. The second is a 1447-51 K-R under John Hunyadi;it is slightly bent and very dark. Huszar 620,Unger 486h,Pohl 177-8,Rethy 157A.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 24, 2016, 04:42:57 am
Both of these are 1458-60 Hungarian Denars under Matthias Corvinus. The first has a K-B mint mark;Huszar 699,Unger 553g,Pohl 199-6,Rethy 217. The second has an n-E mint mark;Huszar 699,Unger 553h,Pohl 199-7,Rethy 217.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on August 24, 2016, 06:11:03 am
All of your coin are nice .. :)
Congratulation.. +++

The last one the shield side are overstriked the the cross.. :) it is interesting.. +++

Regards
Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 24, 2016, 07:22:35 am
Thank you,Quadrans.  :) :)


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on August 24, 2016, 07:25:05 am
Slowly you can start your own gallery in this forum.. :) ;) +++ ;D

Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 04, 2016, 04:09:30 pm
Here are two 1095-1116 Hungarian Denars under King Koloman;Huszar 33,Unger 27. The first one has a crescent sigla next to the L in CALMAN in the legend. The second one has a line sigla between the crosses in the 3:00 and 6:00 position in the center.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on October 04, 2016, 04:11:48 pm
Nice coins.. +++

Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 01, 2016, 09:19:37 am
The first is a 1524 L-W Hungarian Denar under King Louis II;Huszar 846,Unger 675w,Pohl 258-16,Rethy II308A.

The second is a 1440 C-Lily Hungarian Denar under King Albert;Huszar 592,Unger 461q,Pohl 127A-9,Rethy II135B.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 01, 2016, 09:26:10 am
The first one is a 1394-96 I-S Hungarian Denar under Sigismund;Huszar 576,Unger 449.alpha,Pohl 117-14,Rethy II121.

The second is a 1063-74 Hungarian Denar under King Salomon;Huszar 17,Unger 10,Rethy I22.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on November 01, 2016, 05:28:46 pm
Nice coins Edward,

My favourit are the Salomon :)

Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 22, 2016, 07:31:29 am
The first one is a 1526 B-A/A Hungarian Denar under King Louis II;Huszar 841,Unger 673,Pohl 255-12c,Rethy II306A.
The second is a 1485-90 S-W Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus II;Huszar 724,Unger 569b,Pohl 225,Rethy II238.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 22, 2016, 07:37:35 am
The first is a 1468-70 C-Lily Hungarian Denar under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 717,Unger 562f,Pohl 216-6,Rethy II235A.
The second is a 1440/41 W-D Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus I;Huszar 598,Unger 469.alpha,Pohl 135-23,Rethy 149A.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on November 22, 2016, 11:51:15 am
Nice group , Edward..:)   +++

Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 22, 2016, 12:21:52 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. The 1526 B-A/A is a companion to another that was double struck.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on December 16, 2016, 06:53:19 am
The first one is a 1469 B-cross/horseshoe Hungarian Denar under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 717,Unger 562e,Pohl 216-5,Rethy II235A.  The second is a 1468 n-cross/horseshoe also under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 717,Unger 562n,Pohl 216-14,Rethy II235A.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on December 16, 2016, 02:30:36 pm
Great coins.. ;) :) +++

 Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on March 20, 2017, 06:41:59 am
The first is a 1359-64 Lily/f/B Hungarian Denar under King Louis I;Huszar 542,Unger 429q,Pohl 79-4a,Rethy II94a. The second is a 1487-90 K-Cl (like a cents symbol and there is a point over it). Pohl has it as 1487 and Unger at 1490. Huszar 722,Unger 567d,Pohl 223-4.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on March 20, 2017, 01:41:38 pm
Nice coins Edward.. ;) :) +++

 Regards
 Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on March 21, 2017, 01:45:38 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. :)


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 25, 2017, 12:08:56 pm
The first is a 1339-42 rosette mint mark Hungarian Denar under King Charles Robert;Huszar 497,Unger 394m,Pohl 54-2. The second is a 1440/41 G-B under King Wladislaus I;Huszar 598,Unger 469f,Pohl 135-6.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 25, 2017, 12:22:52 pm
The first is a 1442/43 P-I Hungarian Denar (copper) under King Wladsilaus I;Huszar 603,Unger 471.gamma.Pohl 143-10.  The second is a 1445/46 A-A* Hungarian Denar,Interregnum II;Huszar 613,Unger 480b,Pohl 173-1.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on April 25, 2017, 12:55:20 pm
Nice coins Edward ,

 Regards
 Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 26, 2017, 05:46:56 am
Thank you,Quadrans. I should have a few more scarce ones in 2 or 3 weeks. :)


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on April 26, 2017, 07:34:30 am
It's OK we are waiting for... ;) :) +++

Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 15, 2017, 04:55:38 am
The first is a 1525 L-W Hungarian Denar;Huszar 846,Unger 675w,Pohl 258-17. The second is a 1524 R-Lily / L-W ;Huszar 849,Unger 675v,Pohl 258-35. Both are under King Louis II.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 15, 2017, 05:01:42 am
The first is a 1467 B-star/S Hungarian Denar under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 717,Unger 561b,Pohl 214-2, The second is a 1442-44 copper Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus I;Huszar 609,Unger 471w,Pohl 143-22 with an R-I mint mark.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on May 19, 2017, 02:22:35 pm
Hi Edward, both group are interesting.. :) ;) +++

 Regards
 Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 20, 2017, 06:50:24 am
Thank you,Quadrans. :)


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Dee on June 08, 2017, 08:51:43 am
Hello, Edward :) I'm new around here, so I couldn't comment your coins before.
As an archaeologist doing a research and a catalogue of late-medieval silver coins (mostly Hungarian and Austrian), I must say you have some really interesting pieces here. I especially like the "typos" on some of the coins... I myself encountered misspellings such as PAARONA, VNGONA, UZGAR, PANGARIE, mostly double-struck, but some of them were contemporary immitations.
Nice collection :)


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Dee on June 09, 2017, 04:18:13 am
The second is a 1485-90 S-W Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus II;Huszar 724,Unger 569b,Pohl 225,Rethy II238.

Hello again :) I was looking at your nice photos again today, and I noticed for this particular example that it should say Matthias (1458 - 1490), not Wladislaus II (1490 - 1516). According to Pohl 1982, this type was being produced from 1487 to 1490 in Vienna. According to Unger 1974, the production took place between 1485 and 1490. It's interesting how two different types at Unger are one and the same at Pohl, and vice versa...they had very different criteria. I'm sure you know all this, this just caught my eye. :)


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 02, 2017, 06:18:56 pm
The first is a 1444 h-PR Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus I;Huszar 609,Unger 475k,Pohl 147-8.

The second is a 1438 K-L under King Albert;Huszar 591,Unger 459b,Pohl 126-2.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on July 03, 2017, 05:22:35 am
Hi Edward D,

 Nice coin again and the very nice photo.. :)  +++

 Regards

 Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 03, 2017, 01:46:32 pm
Thank you,Quadrans! I have a few more when I get time to photograph them.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 24, 2017, 08:27:34 pm
Both of these are 1440 D-n Hungarian Denars underKing Wladislaus I;Huszar 598,Unger 469e,Pohl 135-5. The first is standard and the second has the eagle and Lithuanian rider reversed.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 24, 2017, 08:35:26 pm
The first is a 1524 L-K Hungarian Denar variant I could not find in the catalog under King Louis II with the 2 in the date reversed;Huszar 846,Unger 675e.

The second is a 1443 W-O made of copper under King Wladislaus I;Huszar 607,Unger 472Z,Pohl 145-25.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 25, 2017, 08:56:11 am
The first is a 1528 C-Lily Hungarian Denar with reverse N's in the legend under King Ferdinand I;Huszar 943,Unger 744d.

The second is a 1528 K-B straight crest variation. It looks like an Unger 744a type,but I can't find this year in the catalog.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 25, 2017, 09:02:25 am
The first is a 1442 B-star/n Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus I;Huszar 605,Unger 470e,Pohl 141-5.

The second is a 1440/41 W-h Hungarian Denar (copper) under King Wladislaus I;Huszar 602,Unger 477g,Pohl 140-6.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on July 26, 2017, 10:46:35 am
Great coins Edwards   +++

Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 26, 2017, 02:02:04 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. :)


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on August 20, 2017, 10:36:36 am
Belatedly checking in.  Nice coins.  It is always a pleasure to see medieval Hungarian coins posted to this (or any English language based) site.  Stkp


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 20, 2017, 12:00:48 pm
Thank you,Stkp. Your gallery and Quadran's gallery have helped me identify several coins in the past. +++


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 04, 2017, 07:51:22 am
The first is a 1532 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand with a Zapolya style Madonna and rosettes instead of points in the legend.

The second is a 1440/41 W-O Billon under King Wladislaus I;Huszar 602,Unger 477c,Pohl 140-7.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 04, 2017, 08:01:37 am
The first is a 1434 n-S Hungarian Denar under Sigismund of Luxemburg;Huszar 578,Unger 450i,Pohl 118-15.

The second is a 1442 K-R copper variant with points over the K and R in the mint mark;Huszar 643,Unger 494h,Pohl 150-13.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 04, 2017, 08:07:14 am
This one is a 1373-82 mace-mace Hungarian Denar under King Louis I with the maces prallel to each other;Huszar 547,Unger 432j,Pohl 89-11.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on October 04, 2017, 10:29:47 am
Hi Edward,

Nice group of coins :)

Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 19, 2017, 08:09:31 am
The first one is a variation of a 1529 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand I with 3 points around the crest. I am still looking for a reference to this variation.

The second is a 1524 Lily-Lily/L-C under King Louis II;Huszar 846,Unger 675c,Pohl 258-3.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 19, 2017, 08:17:30 am
Both of these are 1461 Hungarian Denars under Matthias Corvinus.

The first one has a C-I mint mark;Huszar 702,Unger 554c,Pohl 202-2 and is double struck.

The second has an h-S mint mark with a point over the S;Huszar 702,Unger 554g,Pohl 202-5.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 19, 2017, 08:31:41 am
The first is a 1445/46 A-crescent/n Hungarian Denar ,Interregnum II with a legend variation REGnIE UnGare instead of REGnI UnGARIE. Huszar 613,Unger 480,Pohl 173.

The second is a 1390-1405 n/n under Sigismund of Luxemburg;Huszar 576,Unger 449.gamma,Pohl 117-17. It is the size of a parvus and the last picture shows the size compared to a denar from this time period.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 05, 2017, 09:12:13 am
The first is a 1552 H-P Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand I with a legend variation FERDINAN.D.RO.VNG;Huszar 948,Unger 745k.

The second is a 1527 N-T under King John Zapolya variation with a point over the shield;Huszar 881,Unger 699o,Pohl 265-18.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 05, 2017, 09:24:23 am
The first is a 1526 N-G Hungarian Denar under King Louis II;Huszar 841,Unger 673.alpha,Pohl 255-28.

The second is a 1440 K-R under King Ladislaus V;Huszar 643,Unger 494e,Pohl 150-5.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 05, 2017, 09:45:21 am
Both of these are Hungarian Denars under King Wladislaus I made of copper or very low grade billon.

The first is a 1444 G-W with legend variations. On the obverse mOnETA WLADISLA E instead of mOnETE WLADISLAI DEI and on the reverse UGARIE (missing N);Huszar 609,Unger 475v,Pohl 147-6.

The second is a 1442/43 with an incuse image of the reverse on the obverse. I was wondering if this was a variation but Joe Sermarini pointed out that it is a brockage error.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on November 11, 2017, 01:07:08 pm
Nice coins, Edward. I'm always happy to see posts about medieval Hungarian coins on here. Stkp


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on November 23, 2017, 01:02:33 pm
Hi Edward,

I was left a few weeks, but you have some nice coin here congratulation... +++

Regards

Q.

p.s.

We will printed soon a new book from a Medieval Hungarian coins.. :)

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=113482.msg690337#new

regards

 Q.










Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on November 25, 2017, 08:35:10 am
The first is a 1444 G-W with legend variations. On the obverse mOnETA WLADISLA E instead of mOnETE WLADISLAI DEI and on the reverse UGARIE (missing N);Huszar 609,Unger 475v,Pohl 147-6..

Edward, it is great that you have access to Pohl, which is not an easy book to obtain. The coin was minted in Cuvin, now Kovin in the province of Vojvodina in Serbia.

Stkp


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on December 21, 2017, 08:27:10 am
The first is a 1524 Lily-Lily?L-C Hungarian Denar under King Louis II. This one has a normal 2 in the date;the other one previously posted has a reverse 2. Huszar 846,Unger 675c,Pohl 258-3.

The second is a 1479-90 (1482-90 Unger and 1479-85 Pohl) with an n-C mint mark under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 720,Unger 566g,Pohl 222-6.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on December 21, 2017, 08:38:20 am
The first is a 1445/46 B-star/n Hungarian Denar,Interregnum II variant with the reverse legend on both sides;Huszar 613 var.,Unger 480c var.,Pohl 173-3 var.

The second is a 1358-71 with a saracen head mint mark under King Louis I. It is a variant with 2 points between his legs;Huszar 542 var.,Unger 429x Var.,Pohl 79-9d var.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on December 21, 2017, 08:41:39 am
Nice examples.. ;) +++

Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on December 21, 2017, 09:50:23 am
Very nice coins, Edward.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on December 21, 2017, 06:04:03 pm
Thank you,Quadrans and Stkp. +++


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: peterpil19 on December 22, 2017, 02:46:04 pm
Interesting coins Edward,

Thank you for sharing,

Peter


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on January 02, 2018, 08:11:06 am
The first one is slightly past what is cosidered medieval,but it is a 1614 N-B Hungarian Denar under King Matthias II;Huszar 1142,Unger 871. Some of the copper leeched on to the surface but gives it a nice color.

The second is a 1526 C-Lily with a Gothic C in the mint mark under King Louis II;Huszar 841,Unger 673i,Pohl 255-24.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on January 02, 2018, 08:20:04 am
The first is a 1500-05 n/A (1500-02 Huszar,1505 Pohl) Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus II;Huszar 807,Unger 641c,Pohl 242-3. The Madonna side is double struck.

The second is a 1489 K-P/Rosette variant without glory under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 722var,Unger 567var,Pohl 223var. The lines on Madonna's face and neck are from the Arpadian stripes in the shield from the other side.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on January 02, 2018, 05:28:36 pm
Hi Edward,

Happy New Year... :)

Nice coin all,
My favourit the first two:
Mathias II. N-B, Nice Madonna.... :)
and  C-Lily Lodovicus II. are also great... +++

Regards

Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on January 02, 2018, 08:01:09 pm
The second is a 1489 K-P/Rosette variant without glory under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 722var,Unger 567var,Pohl 223var. The lines on Madonna's face and neck are from the Arpadian stripes in the shield from the other side.

They are both nice additions, Edward, although I find the Huszar 722 var. to be especially interesting. I have one bearing that mintmark in which the Madonna is not nimbate but the infant Jesus is nimbate.   http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-46180. Your coin is another variety which, as far as I know, is not recorded. It seems that only those with this mintmark omit this feature.

Stkp


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on January 03, 2018, 09:45:34 am
Thank you,Quadrans and Stkp. +++

@ Stkp,I saw the one you are talking about in your gallery and I wasn't able to find the variation  I have published. That's why I had to broad brush the attribution with a note of variation.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 01, 2018, 03:45:49 pm
The first is a 1624 P-P Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand II;Huszar 1207,Unger 918b.

The second is a 1554 N-C under King Ferdinand I;Huszar 953 var.,Unger 745l var. It is a variant with 3 rosettes under the Madonna.

The third is an unpublished variant of a 1530 A-B under King John Zapolya with a curved crest;Huszar 881 var.,Unger 699z var.,Pohl 265-2 var.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on April 01, 2018, 03:56:00 pm
Great examples, Edward, congratulations


 +++

Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 01, 2018, 03:57:48 pm
The first is a 1490 K-Q (Cl) Hungarian Denar under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 722,Unger 567d,Pohl 223-4. It isn't that scarce,but I had room for it.

The second is a contemporary counterfeit Hungarian Denar from the time of Queen Maria (1382-95);Huszar 569,Unger 443 type,Pohl 114. The legend is totally unmeaning.

The third is a 1373-82 with a Lily-S mint mark under King Louis I;Huszar 547,Unger 432d,Pohl 89-9.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on April 01, 2018, 03:59:39 pm
Hoops , another three nice specimen  +++ :) ;)

Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 01, 2018, 04:02:20 pm
Thank you, Quadrans.  +++  I posted the second group after you replied.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on April 02, 2018, 06:59:45 am
All are very nice. Stkp


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 02, 2018, 05:26:06 pm
Thank you,Stkp. +++


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 10, 2018, 04:21:30 pm
The first one isn't medieval,but the lowest mintage of King Leopold's reign;a 1666 K-B Hungarian Denar,Huszar 1506 and Unger 1110.

The second is a 1470 n-hammer under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 717,Unger 562m,Pohl 216-13. It is a variant with a circle in the legend instead of the point.

The third one is quite common,but I have room for it;a 1390-1427 Hungarian Denar under Sigismund of Luxebmburg;Huszar 576,Unger 449a,Pohl 117-1.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 10, 2018, 04:34:26 pm
These are variants of the Saracen head denars. They are all 1373-82 Hungarian Denars under King Louis I.

The first has a P_ (P with a stem to the right from the base). As far as I know,this one isn't recorded in the catalogues;Huszar 547var.,Unger 432c var.,Pohl 89-8 var.

The second and third are variations of the legend;I couldn't find either of these in the catalogues. They are both variants of Huszar 547,Unger 432a,Pohl 89-1. The second has the obverse legend on both sides and the third has the rverse legend on both sides.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on April 11, 2018, 11:40:32 pm
Hi, Edwards,

Nice coins :),

About King Luis, the P mintmark look legate PL, :)
and the last two coins are interesting, but this type has several legends combination, which is not described the earlier catalogues.
Some same combination also exists the Maria coins too... :) +++ ;)

Regards

Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 12, 2018, 05:27:59 am
Thank you,Quadrans.  +++   I also have a variation where the obverse and reverse legends are swapped.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on April 13, 2018, 09:10:54 pm
The second and third are variations of the legend;I couldn't find either of these in the catalogues. They are both variants of Huszar 547,Unger 432a,Pohl 89-1. The second has the obverse legend on both sides and the third has the rverse legend on both sides.

Nice coins. The one with the reverse on both sides is listed as Huszar 547a.
Stkp


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 14, 2018, 01:26:17 pm
Thank you.Stkp! +++


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 03, 2018, 09:55:50 am
The first is a 1524 L-3 Hungarian Denar under King Louis II variation with points surrounding the digits in the date;Huszar 853,Unger 677c,Pohl 258-10.

The second is a1479-90 with an n-2 snakes mint mark under Matthias Corvinus with the first M (MONETA) missing in the legend;Huszar 720,Unger 566j,Pohl 232-10.

The third is a 1479-86 K-P with a backward K in the mint mark;Huszar 719 var.,Unger 565b var.,Pohl 221-1 var.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on May 04, 2018, 01:00:58 pm
Great coins,  :) +++

Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 05, 2018, 01:28:09 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. :)


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on May 10, 2018, 09:52:29 pm
Very interesting coins. Stkp


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 12, 2018, 01:37:19 pm
Thank you,Stkp. It is amazing how many different varieties and legend variations there are.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on June 07, 2018, 08:54:22 am
New additions.
1. 1531 eagle wings Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand I;Huszar 961,Unger 744o. The eagle wings are a little more visible in hand than the picture. Reverse n's in the legend and an x over the crest are traits of the eagle wing denar. Another thing that interferes with the eagle wings is the obverse is double struck and the eagle wings are opposite in the same place as the date.

2. 1471-81 K-PV under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar;Huszar 718,Unger 564e,Pohl 219-5.

3.1470 n-hammers under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 717,Unger 562m,Pohl 216-13. This variety is the Madonna without stole.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on June 07, 2018, 03:41:21 pm
Interesting coins...

Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on June 07, 2018, 04:03:46 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. :)


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 12, 2018, 04:53:47 pm
1. 1554 N-C Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand I variation with points under the Madonna and points and stars in the legend instead of rosettes;Huszar 953,Unger 745l.

2. 1455 B-L/star under King Ladislaus V. I don't see this mint mark in the catalogues,but I do see one with + over the L Huszar 664var,Unger 523var,Pohl 187-2var.

3.1384/85 G-M under Queen Maria with "REGINE UNGARIE" legend variation;Huszar 569var,Unger 443dvar,Pohl 114-4var.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on July 12, 2018, 10:34:27 pm
Both are great, Edward,  ;) +++

My favorite the Maria denar, :)

Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 12, 2018, 11:03:59 pm
Thank you.Quadrans. :)


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on July 14, 2018, 02:46:22 pm
Both are great, Edward,  ;) +++
My favorite the Maria denar, :)
Q.

Agreed. For more information on this particular variation of the Maria, bearing the same mark, please refer to my example:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-51280

Stkp


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 19, 2018, 09:21:23 am
The first is a 1447-52 B-I Hungarian Denar under John Hunyadi with a legend variation TEMPORE.GUBERNATORIS instead of TEMPORE.IO.GUBERNATOR which isn't in the catalogues;Huszar 623var,Unger 486avar,Pohl 177-1var.

The second is a 1440/41 L-P. Hungarian Denar under King Ladislaus V. It is a variation with a point after the P in the mint mark not in the catalogues;Huszar 643var,Unger 494lvar,Pohl 150-10var. I have another one of these but this has slightly better details.

The third is a 1390-1427 S under Sigismund of Luxemburg. It is a variation with the mint mark on the left side of the cross;Huszar 576,Unger 449.mu.Pohl 117-8.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on August 19, 2018, 05:51:08 pm
All very nice finds. Stkp


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 19, 2018, 06:19:09 pm
Thank you,Stkp. :)


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on August 19, 2018, 06:35:29 pm
Hi Edward, nice examples,

about the JŠnos Hunyadi denar, both of the legends exist, but depends on which privy mark and which date...
because of the position of him...


Regards

Joe


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 19, 2018, 07:59:49 pm
Thank you Quadrans. I have the other legend variation also on the B-I mint mark. :)


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on September 12, 2018, 09:17:52 am
The first one is a 1383(Huszar and Unger)/1383-85(Pohl) Hungarian Denar under Queen Maria with a lily-lily mint mark;Huszar 566,Unger 442f,Pohl 112-2.

The second is a 1077-95 Hungarian Denar under King Ladislaus I;Huszar 27,Unger 22,CAC/Opitz Vol.1/10.8.b2.1/14. It has a sigla consisting of 2 wedges between the A and U in LADISLAUS.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on September 16, 2018, 11:33:06 am
Nice coins. Stkp


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on September 16, 2018, 12:10:56 pm
Thank you,Stkp. +++


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on September 24, 2018, 12:10:20 pm
Great coins Edward,
Congratulation  +++

Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on September 24, 2018, 12:47:00 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. +++


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 07, 2018, 10:34:04 am
The first one isn't medieval,but a 1622 K-B Hungarian Denar under Gabor Bethlen;Huszar Transylvania 455,Unger 272a,KM#120.

The second is a 1546 K-B under King Ferdinand I with a 5 pointed star after the date and 3 under the Madonna;Huszar 935,Unger 745a.

The fourth is most likely a contemporary counterfeit that shows a "date" of 555 (or  reverse 222) and an L-K mint mark that was used during King Louis II's reign.


The third is a 1520 K-G under King Louis II with VNGAR legend variation on obverse;Huszar 841,Unger 673m,Pohl 255-1. It has a blue patina in obverse legend and a pale red in the center.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 07, 2018, 10:53:46 am
The first is a 1470 n-hammers under Matthias Corvinus with points in the legend (I already have the variation with circles in the legend);Huszar 717,Unger 562m,Pohl 216-13.

The second a 1445/46 B-star/nInterregnum II billon with MOnETA.UnGARIE.REGNI instead of MOnETA.REGNI.UNGARIE;Huszar 613,Unger 480c,Pohl 173-3.

The third a 1373-82 under King Louis I Saracen head with no points around the double cross;Huszar 547,Unger 432a,Pohl 89-1.



Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on October 07, 2018, 09:06:35 pm
All nice. Stkp


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on October 13, 2018, 11:01:06 am
Great coins Edward,

 +++

Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 13, 2018, 01:59:48 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. :)


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 01, 2018, 12:09:37 pm
The first is a 1444 A-B Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus I;Huszar 609a,Unger 475b,Pohl 148-7.

The second is a 1046-60 under King Andreas I;Huszar 9,Unger 5,CAC1/Opitz 4.4.09.1/81. It has a sigla of 2 points in each quadrant of the inner circle and another under REX in the legend.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on November 01, 2018, 12:16:24 pm
Great coins ... ;) +++

Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 01, 2018, 01:34:21 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. :)


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on November 04, 2018, 10:31:34 pm
Nice coins. Stkp


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 05, 2018, 06:25:18 am
Thank you,Stkp.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on December 02, 2018, 08:07:46 am
This one is a 1373-82 Saracen head Hungarian Denar under King Louis I with a crown-crown mint mark;Huszar 547,Unger 432e,Pohl 89-2.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on December 02, 2018, 10:59:02 am
Great piece,  +++

Congratulation

Joe


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on December 03, 2018, 07:46:35 am
Nice. Stkp


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on December 03, 2018, 08:08:19 am
Thank you,Quadrans and Stkp. :)


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: reebeezlee on December 27, 2018, 05:54:08 am
Very nice pieces and interesting mint marks! It will take some time to go through them but it's worth the effort :)



-reebeezlee


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on December 27, 2018, 11:37:19 am
Thank you reebeezlee. :)


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on February 17, 2019, 07:25:42 am
Here is a 1358-71 Hungarian Denar under King Louis I with a G mint mark;Huszar 542,Unger 429e,Pohl 79-14.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on February 17, 2019, 08:30:16 am
Nice piece... +++ ;)

Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on February 17, 2019, 08:48:19 am
Yes, it certainly is a nice piece, and very well centered on the reverse. Stkp


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on February 17, 2019, 09:47:54 am
Thank you,Quadrans and Stkp. +++


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on March 16, 2019, 01:40:29 pm
The first two are anonymous Hungarian Denars attributed to King Stephen III (1162-72?)

1. Sigla small wedge at 2:00 and a small wedge in "O",Huszar 127,Unger 84,Rethy I-137,CAC vol.2/19.15.1.1/b2.3/29.
2. Sigla at the top of the cross at 12:00,Huszar 113,Unger 83,Rethy I-123,CAC vol.2/19.5.1.1/a1.1/2.
 
3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar attributed to King Geza II (1141-62?),Variation oh Huszar 139,Unger 65,CAC vol.2/20.2.2.1/a1.9/10. Sigla one point on the horizontal cross bar just to the left of the vertical cross bar.

4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar attributed to King Stephen II (1116-31?),Huszar 76,Unger 42,Rethy I-65,CAC vol.2/18.1.1.1/b1.2/43. Sigla small wedge at about 1:00 to the right of the larger wedga and above/left of small cross.



Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on March 17, 2019, 01:27:52 am
Dear, Edwards, I hope, you like the Book :)

All, nice coins, and you find correctly the sigla variation,  ;)

I have a note only the second coin, the cross of the top has a pellet on the top part,
normally is not there, it means that is a sigla!

CAC vol.2/19.5.1.1/a1.1/2.   +++

Regards

Joe/Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on March 17, 2019, 06:00:15 am
Thank you,Quadrans. I was thinking that looked different from the bottom cross. +++


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on March 17, 2019, 06:44:31 am
It is OK,  +++

 Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on March 17, 2019, 08:49:15 am
Nice additions, Edward. Stkp


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on March 17, 2019, 10:27:53 am
Thank you,Stkp. :)


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 07, 2019, 07:48:02 am
1. 1526 C-Lily Hungarian Denar under King Louis II with an open C in the mint mark;Huszar 841,Unger 673 I,Pohl 255-24.

2. 1445/46 K-R billon Hungarian Denar,Interregnum II;Huszar 613,Unger 480f,Pohl 173-6.


3. 1358-71 star/saracen head Hungarian Denar under King Louis I. It is a variation of Huszar 542,Unger 429,but only listed in Pohl as 79-9a.





Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 07, 2019, 08:13:55 am
All of these are anonymous Hungarian Denars.

1. Stephen III (1162-72?). It has a sigla of one point in center of cross at 3:00;Huszar 171,Unger 85,Rethy I-157,CAC Vol. II/20.18.1.1/a1.14/15.

2. King Geza II (1141-62?). It has a sigla of one point over the cross in the center;Huszar 148,Unger 69,Rethy I-126,CAC Vol. II/20.6.1.1/a1.16/17.

3. King Geza II (1141-62?). It has a sigla of one point at about 2:00;Huszar 123,Unger 70,Rethy I-132,CAC Vol. II/19.9.1.1/a1.7/8.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on April 07, 2019, 11:17:11 pm
Wow, Edward, all 6 coins are great,  ;)

Congratulation,  +++

Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 08, 2019, 08:28:19 am
Thank you,Quadrans. :)


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on April 14, 2019, 04:57:18 pm
Six very nice coins. Edward. Stkp


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 14, 2019, 05:19:24 pm
Thank you,Stkp. :)


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 08, 2019, 08:02:11 am
1. 1525 ND-G Hungarian Denar under King Louis II (slightly bent);Huszar 841,Unger 673w,Pohl 255-29.

2. 1358-71 fB Hungarian Denar under King Louis I,Huszar 542,Unger 429q,Pohl 79-4.

3. 1336/37 Hungarian Denar under King Charles Robert,Huszar 491,Unger 391,Pohl 48.

4.Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62 King Geza II?);Huszar 123,Unger 70,Rethy I-132,CAC vol. II/19.9.1.1/0.1/1. It has no sigla.

5. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (Geza II?);Huszar 152,Unger 72,Rethy I-45,CAC vol. II/20.9.1.1/a1.2/3. It has a sigla of one point just to the left of 12:00.





Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 08, 2019, 08:14:49 am
1. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41 King Bela II?);Huszar 99,Rethy I-87. It has a sigla of 2 small wedges to the left and right of the cross vertical in each of the upper left and right quadrants. The closest in CAC vol. II is 18.12/b4.2/52 except the 2 wedges on the right are facing the opposite direction.

2.1095-1116 Hungarian Denar under King Coloman (Kalman);Huszar 40,Unger 31,Rethy I-48,CAC vol. I/11.10/b2.1/36. It has a sigla of 2 small wedges under the C in CALMAN just above 3:00.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on May 08, 2019, 03:36:42 pm
Nice pieces,  ;) +++

Joe/Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 08, 2019, 05:33:25 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. :)


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 29, 2019, 08:37:38 am
1. 1519 K-G Hungarian Denar under King Louis II with "VNGARI" legend variation on reverse;Huszar 841,Unger 673m,Pohl 255-1.

2. 1517 K-G with the same legend variation as the previous one.

3.1445/46 W-I,Interregnum II;Huszar 613,Unger 480h,Pohl 173-8.

4.Anonymous Hungarian Denar (King Stephen III,1162-72?);Huszar 117a,Unger82,Rethy I-129,CAC vol. II/19.7.1.1/b1.26/77. It has a sigla of one small wedge in the lower right quadrant below intersection of large cross.

5. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (King Geza II,1141-62?);Huszar 152,Unger 72,Rethy I-145,CAC vol. II/20.9.1.1/a1.17/18. It has a sigla of one small point upper right quadrant below and left of larger point.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 29, 2019, 08:44:11 am
6. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (King Geza II,1141-62?);Huszar 180,Unger 67,Rethy I-160,CAC vol. II/20.20.1.1/a 2.7/24. It has a sigla of one point above and below the third cross from the left.

7.1095-1116 Hungarian Denar under King Coloman;Huszar 35,Unger 26,Rethy I-43,Cac vol. I/11.6/a1b1.1/61. It has a sigla of one point and one wedge in the upper right quadrant of inner circle.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on June 02, 2019, 06:24:55 am
Dear Edward,

Great coins all, very nice collection... +++

Congratulation   ;)

Joe/Q.

p.s.

I was left for a few weeks...


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on June 02, 2019, 09:55:58 am
Thank you,Quadrans. I have been getting a lot of use out of the volume II of the catalogue. +++ :)


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on June 02, 2019, 10:00:24 am
Thank you, Edward,

I'm happy if you like Vol II. and useful for you... +++ ;)

Regards

 Joe/Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on June 19, 2019, 08:17:14 am
1. 1440/41 G-B Hungarian Denar (billon) under King Wladislaus I;Huszar 598,Unger 469f,Pohl 135-6.


2. 1358-71 Lily/point Hungarian Denar under King Louis I;Huszar 542,Unger 429v var.,Pohl 79-6 var. I don't see this mint mark listed in the main catalogues.


3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (King Geza II,1141-62?);Huszar 159,Unger 60,Rethy I-49,CAC vol. II/20.13.1.1/a2.4/18. It has a sigla of two points straddling 3:00.


4.Contemporary counterfeit (silvered copper?) resembling the previous coin.


5.1095-1116 Hungarian Denar under King Coloman;Huszar 39,Unger 32,Rethy I-47,CAC vol. I/11.9/a1.2/3. It has a sigla of one point at about 1:00.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on June 20, 2019, 01:23:50 pm
Nice coins, Edward,  :)

Congratulation    +++


Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on June 20, 2019, 02:16:11 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. :)


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 17, 2019, 10:39:07 am
1. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (King Geza II,1141-62?);variation of Huszar 139,Unger 65,CAC vol. II/20.2.2.1/a1.7/8. It has a sigla of one point between 2:00 and 3:00 between two vertical lines.

2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (King Stephen III,1162-72?);Huszar 118,Rethy I-131;CAC vol. II/19.8.1.1/b3.1/38. It has a sigla of three small wedges in upper left quadrant near the intersection of the two cross lines.

3.1329 Hungarian Parvus under King Charles Robert;Huszar 471,Unger 372,Pohl 38. This is the only non -denar I have,but added it because it is one of the few nedieval Hungarian coins with the Holy Lamb and flag.


4. 1385 G-m Hungarian Denar under Queen Maria;Huszar 569,Unger 443d,Pohl 114-4. It has a legen variation of REInA VnGARIE on obverse and MOnETA MARIA on reverse.


5. 1469 K-shield Hungarian Denar under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 717,Unger 562i,Pohl 216-9. It has a legend variation of PATROn on reverse.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on July 17, 2019, 03:15:20 pm
Great set of coins... +++

Congratulation Edward.

 :)

Q.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 17, 2019, 04:12:03 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. :)


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on July 20, 2019, 07:04:31 pm
A lot of great coins, Edward, since I last logged on. Stkp