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Title: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Enodia on March 10, 2015, 10:37:51 pm
it's not very big, but it serves me well. having said that there are still a LOT of titles i would like to add.

http://www.librarything.com/catalog/Enodia&tag=Magna%2BGraecia

~ Peter
Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Molinari on March 11, 2015, 08:07:26 am
Very nice.  I need to get an original copy of Sambon.  I've been working with a self-made reprint for too long.
Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Jay GT4 on March 11, 2015, 08:38:51 am
Nice collection. How did you like Mystic Cults of Magna Grecia? Worth getting?
Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Enodia on March 11, 2015, 04:00:25 pm
Very nice.  I need to get an original copy of Sambon.  I've been working with a self-made reprint for too long.

i got mine here at Forvm, although i haven't needed it too much to this point. but i see that changing in the future.

Quote from: Jay
Nice collection. How did you like Mystic Cults of Magna Grecia? Worth getting?

thanks Jay. and yes, very much worth getting if you are into Greek religion as i am. also quite informative even if only to see the context of ancient coins in relation to the people striking them, as opposed to just collecting. these images and symbols didn't occur in a vacuum. my Taras collection comes much more alive by understanding the cults in play when the coins were struck.

~ Peter
Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Jay GT4 on March 11, 2015, 07:01:46 pm
Thanks Peter,
I'm from that part of Italy so the history is always of interest.  I'll put it on my wish list!
Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Meepzorp on March 12, 2015, 11:54:27 pm
Very nice.  I need to get an original copy of Sambon.  I've been working with a self-made reprint for too long.

Hi Enodia,

Nice collection.

I didn't even notice that the first time I looked at that link. Yes, an original copy of Sambon is impressive. I have a reprint for several years. I think I purchased it from a dealer in San Marino.

Nick, a self-made reprint? ???

Did you just xerox some pages? :) ::)

Meepzorp
Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Meepzorp on March 13, 2015, 12:09:16 am
Nice collection. How did you like Mystic Cults of Magna Grecia? Worth getting?

Hi Jay,

As you may be aware, about a year ago, in another thread here in Forum, Taras and I (somewhat humorously) explored some of the ancient cults of Neapolis. We discussed how many of the people of modern-day Naples and their descendants here in the USA (including my own mother, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc.) still practice remnants of those ancient Neapolitan cults, without even realizing the (usually pagan) origins of those cults. They are totally oblivious to the pagan (and MFB?) origins of those cults. I find that quite humorous, especially considering the fact the some of my Neapolitan relatives here in the USA (but not my mother or myself) are religious. If they only knew the pagan origins of some of the rituals that they have been doing all these years..... :) ::)

Meepzorp
Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Jay GT4 on March 13, 2015, 12:26:42 am
Meep I hear you. In fact most of the traditions of the church come from pagan roots but I don't want to take this conversation down that path as it may end up crossing the line...modern politics and religion. :police:

Can you post a link? Must have missed that thread!

I have the book on my wish list.
Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Meepzorp on March 13, 2015, 12:56:11 am
Meep I hear you. In fact most of the traditions of the church come from pagan roots but I don't want to take this conversation down that path as it may end up crossing the line...modern politics and religion. :police:

Can you post a link? Must have missed that thread!

Hi Jay,

I understand your feelings expressed in the first paragraph.

Offhand, I don't remember the exact thread. It was in the Greek section. If I remember correctly, it was a MFB thread. Some of those threads were merged into a sticky thread.

I'll see if I can find it...

Meepzorp
Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Meepzorp on March 13, 2015, 01:08:13 am
Hi Jay,

Here is the link:

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=93023.0

Meepzorp
Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Enodia on March 13, 2015, 02:48:42 am
... In fact most of the traditions of the church come from pagan roots but I don't want to take this conversation down that path as it may end up crossing the line...modern politics and religion. :police:


an inconvenient truth perhaps, but a truth none the less.

~ Peter
Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Jay GT4 on March 13, 2015, 06:19:34 pm
... In fact most of the traditions of the church come from pagan roots but I don't want to take this conversation down that path as it may end up crossing the line...modern politics and religion. :police:


an inconvenient truth perhaps, but a truth none the less.

~ Peter

+1

Hi Jay,

Here is the link:

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=93023.0

Meepzorp

An excellent discussion! Thanks!
Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: areich on March 14, 2015, 03:36:26 am
I don't think a conversation like that would be against the rules.
Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Enodia on March 14, 2015, 04:21:13 am
I don't think a conversation like that would be against the rules.


word.
for one thing this would, in my opinion, be a discussion of ancient politics and religion. for example Mithras' birthday (December 25th) was co-opted in ancient Roman times, not modern.

~ Peter
Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Taras on March 15, 2015, 06:55:55 am
Wow, Ravel and Pais in original edition!
That's a nice library Peter, congratulations :)

Nico
Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Enodia on March 15, 2015, 09:59:16 pm
Very nice.  I need to get an original copy of Sambon.  I've been working with a self-made reprint for too long.

Quote from: Meepzorp
I didn't even notice that the first time I looked at that link. Yes, an original copy of Sambon is impressive. I have a reprint for several years. I think I purchased it from a dealer in San Marino.

oops, i'm sorry i didn't catch this the first time through. my Sambon is not an original, but rather the Forni reprint. LibraryThing has a number of ways to enter books and sometimes fills in information i don't supply, with about as much accuracy as spellcheck.
the Ravel and Pais are originals though.   :)  

wishing it were so,
~ Peter

Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Enodia on April 02, 2015, 10:58:59 pm
today i received 'The McGill University Collection of Greek and Roman Coins, Volumes I - III'.
presented in SNG format, this book contain the three catalogs of coins from the McGill collection in one edition, with Volume I being Roman, Volume II Greek gold &  silver, and Volume III Greek bronze and Roman Provincial.

with 324 Greek coins listed, and 213 of those from Taras, how could i resist?!   :) 

~ Peter
Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Enodia on August 24, 2015, 10:53:00 pm
Quote
"... books are the only article of property in which I am richer than my neighbors"
~ Thomas De Quincy

i picked this one up last month; 'An Inventory of Greek Coin Hoards' by Otto Morkholm...
http://www.librarything.com/work/518466/book/120604928

not specifically Magna Graecia, but very Taras-heavy and thus of some use to me. i've been interested in this book for awhile, but being a cheap-skate i waited for an affordable copy, and finally got it!   :)

~ Peter
Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Enodia on December 04, 2015, 04:23:12 pm
here's a couple of titles i've added in the past few months...

the first is Oliver Hoover's handbook of Sicilian coins. i really had no decent catalog of this series before this, as most are just too expensive (Calciati!). i can't say i think it's really great, but i find it useful and it fills a definite need;
https://www.librarything.com/work/16067371/book/123186959

the second is just a book of ancient Magna Graecian art. i thought it was more text heavy when i got it from Amazon, but it was really cheap so i'm not disappointed;
https://www.librarything.com/work/4563376/book/123495273

~ Peter
Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Enodia on June 27, 2017, 02:24:24 am
well i finally got a copy of Chronologie der Didrachmenpragung von Tarent 510-280 v.Chr., by Wolfgang Fischer-Bossert.
this is the definitive die study for the coins of Taras, and therefore is vital for anyone collecting this series. however it is very expensive (at least for me), and has a number of limitations, not the least of which are it does not deal with fractional coinage at all, nor any of the post-Pyrrhic didrachms, and the text is in German.
i was finally able to get a reasonably priced copy though, thanks to AbeBooks, and i am happy to announce that this volume is now a part of my library...
https://www.librarything.com/work/19769275/book/142885252

and on another note, while not specific to Magna Graecia, this region was very active in striking coins of the Man-Faced Bull, and i find i have been remiss and have to thank Nick and Nico for a beautiful copy of their very useful book Potamikon...
https://www.librarything.com/work/18298964/book/133715315

this should have been announced last year, and only now do i realize that i haven't done so, and i wish to thank both of my friends for this wonderful addition to my library. Thanks guys!!!

gratefully,
~ Peter
Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Molinari on June 27, 2017, 07:32:28 am
Wow, I can't believe you didn't already have Fischer-Bossert, you must be thrilled. That's too bad (and somewhat surprising) that it doesn't include any fractional coinage.

Nice to see Potamikon catalogued in your collection!
Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Enodia on June 27, 2017, 01:24:03 pm
i know, it was a huge gap, but just too expensive to buy and ship until now (it is an enormous tome!). but i got a really great deal and i'm finally up to par in this area, i think.
and the German limitations fall away with the Google Translate app, which lets me see the text in English through the camera viewer. a handy and useful feature, but also a bit scary to this old luddite!
i find books on fractional coinage to be an area which is sadly lacking throughout Magna Graecia i think, and certainly for the coins of Taras.

Potamikon only just got posted here because i actually forgot about this thread. it has been in my LibraryThing catalog since you sent it though.

and anyone who doesn't know about LibraryThing really should do the tour. what a handy way to organize one's book collection!

~ Peter
Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Enodia on August 01, 2017, 03:15:01 am
today i added another major and necessary piece to my Tarentine library, SNG France 6,1...

https://www.librarything.com/work/19991137/book/144320193

this volume covers much of the coinage of Greek Italy, with a large section devoted to Taras.

~ Peter

Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: peterpil19 on August 01, 2017, 10:32:36 pm
Hi Peter,

You have an impressive collection of books, numismatic and otherwise!

Is this your first SNG?

If so, and out of interest, do you plan to collect the other volumes in SNG France or do you stick to references which are consistent with your collecting areas of interest?

Peter
Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Enodia on August 02, 2017, 03:52:47 am
thank you Peter.

yes, this is my first SNG. i may add a few more eventually, but they will most likely be certain volumes relevant to my interest. unfortunately they are not cheap so i need to be picky.

there are still some specialized catalogs i would love to add, such as Calciati for example, but they are just too cost prohibitive on my slender budget.
i am wondering when Oliver Hoover is going to add Magna Graecia to his series of books. that would be an affordable addition i would get right away i think.
ahhh, so many books, so little cash!   ;)

~ Peter
Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Enodia on July 12, 2018, 09:05:22 pm
here's a couple of new Magna Graecia auction catalogs I just added, both small and from Bank Leu in 1961. the first is all Tarentum (Taras), while the second covers a number of Greek cities in Lucania.
I really only needed the first one, which I've already made use of, but I decided to take advantage of the opportunity to get the set. and they were from Forvm, so why not?   ;)

http://www.librarything.com/work/22080159/book/158216851
http://www.librarything.com/work/22080139/book/158216650

~ Peter
Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: gordian_guy on July 13, 2018, 11:25:52 am


Thanks +++

c.rhodes
Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Enodia on October 22, 2019, 05:43:31 pm
I added volume one of the Oliver Hoover Handbook series a little while ago. This is the Magna Graecia installment, first in the series but last to be published, so I've been waiting awhile since it's really the only one i needed (although i have the Sicily volume as well).
I find it to be more supplemental than essential, but it's nice to have anyway...

https://www.librarything.com/work/23687424/book/173404093

- Peter
Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Anaximander on October 25, 2019, 03:27:54 pm
A hearty thanks!  Your posts here have spurred me to join LibraryThing and do what I should have started long ago: catalog my coin books.  I now approach that site with the same determination and attention to detail as I do my coin collecting and cataloging.  So I am now over 80 Greek coin books and pamphlets cataloged, with many an inexpensive reprint among them, several volumes of the ANS ACNAC series, and yes, a couple SNGs. 

https://www.librarything.com/catalog/Anaximandros (https://www.librarything.com/catalog/Anaximandros)

My latest new book is also Hoover's Handbook of Greek Coins, volume I: Magna Graecia.  It satisfies a craving to have lots of references, especially those in contemporary works.

Cheers~
Anaximander

Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Enodia on October 26, 2019, 01:46:35 pm
Cool!
Yes, LT is a great resource of which I'm surprised more coin collectors don't avail themselves.

Do you use the same handle there?

- Peter
Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Anaximander on October 28, 2019, 06:40:10 am
Yes, LT is a great resource of which I'm surprised more coin collectors don't avail themselves.
Do you use the same handle there?

I use the name Anaximandros on LibraryThing, since Anaximander was already taken.  
I did find something of a learning curve there, as I did here, but it's worth the effort.

Anaximander
Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Steve Moulding on December 07, 2021, 09:37:41 pm
Wow. I had no idea about LibraryThing until I read this thread. What a great resource!
I've uploaded some of my books: https://www.librarything.com/catalog/smoulding (https://www.librarything.com/catalog/smoulding)

Daehn just arrived from Forum. Very useful.

This will keep me busy (busier).

Thank you!

Steve

Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Anaximander on December 08, 2021, 08:59:46 am
Nice reference collection, Steve. 

That was a timely reminder for me to update my LibraryThing catalog (https://www.librarything.com/catalog/Anaximandros) with my 2021 additions...
SNG Great Britain V. Oxford. Parts 3, 4, & 5.
SNG Denmark. Aarhus.
Vecchi. Italian Cast Coinage
Amandry-Hurter. Le Rider Travaux.
Sotheby's. The Lawrence Stack Collection

Cheers~
Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
Post by: Steve Moulding on December 09, 2021, 10:46:59 am
Thanks Chris. Nice adds to your library! I have it bookmarked at LibraryThing. I'm stlll missing a few of the SNG's, but no hurry.

Cheers,

Steve

Title: Re: My Magna Graecia library
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